Some highlights from my listening:
If the reader can't feel what matters and what doesn't matter then nothing matters, including finishing the story.
Speaking about curiosity and the brain chemical dopamine Lisa says we don't turn to story to escape reality, we turn to stories to navigate reality.
The story is not about the plot, the story is about how the plot affects the protagonist.
The interview podcast (and book) are worth checking out, to see if Lisa's insights resonate for you.
Illustrate and Write On,